Isabella’s bruise - a mock interview

Child Interview Isabella's Bruise

0:21

Hi darling, how was your day?

0:24

Hhhmmmmh.

0:25

What?

Initial disclosure

0:38

Isabella, can you reach my sunglasses?

0:41

They’re in my bag.

0:46

Oww.

0:47

What happened?

0:49

Did you hurt yourself?

0:53

Can you show me where it hurts?

0:57

That’s a nasty bruise.

1:00

What happened?

1:02

Mrs Grey. Don’t say anything.

1:04

Me tienes que decir que pasó, si no, no te puedo ayudar! (You need to tell me what happened, otherwise I cannot help you!)

1:10

I’m going to talk to someone at school about this.

1:20

Here you are, James.

1:21

You asked to see Isabella.

1:22

Oh hey Isabella! Thanks for coming to see me.

1:25

Could you see that we’re not disturbed?

1:27

Good to see you again Isabella.

Greeting

1:32

One of my jobs at school is to talk to children about things that may have happened.

1:37

We’re going to have a talk, and then I’m going to take you back to your mum.

1:41

Can you come back and teach us?

1:43

I’d love to. But I can’t this week. Soon, though.

Conversational rules

1:49

So Isabella, we’re going to have a talk.

1:52

But before we do, I need to tell you a few things.

1:56

When you talk here today, you can use any words you want.

2:01

I’m going to write down what you say because it helps me remember.

2:07

I might ask something you don’t understand.

2:10

Just say ‘I don’t understand.’

2:14

I might ask you something and you don’t know the answer.

2:18

Just say ‘I don’t know.’

2:20

It’s important that you say only what happened.

2:24

Is that okay?

2:26

Sure.

Practice narrative

2:30

Sometimes when I talk to children, it helps to talk about something fun that happened first.

2:35

Is that okay with you?

2:37

Sure.

2:38

Tell me something fun you like to do.

2:41

Reading and going rock climbing.

2:44

Oh cool. I’ve never done rock climbing before.

2:47

Tell me everything about the last time you went rock climbing.

2:52

I went with my dad.

2:55

Uh huh

2:57

And when we got there I had to put rock climbing shoes on.

3:01

Uh huh

3:03

And I climbed the wall with the grey rocks first.

3:08

What happened next?

3:10

My friend and I climbed all the really hard walls.

3:13

And we had ropes and harnesses. And then she belayed me.

3:18

Uh huh

3:20

And then we did boulder climbing, some games, and after that we went home.

3:26

Tell me more about the part where you put the rock climbing shoes on?

3:30

Well they’re really tight on your toes and over time they can shrink your feet.

3:36

What happened when you climbed the really hard walls?

3:38

We talked along the way and the rocks were really far apart.

3:43

Mmm hmm

3:44

You have to bend your feet a lot and make sure you don’t fall off.

3:47

But I didn’t. I love it sooooo much.

Introducing the topic of concern

3:54

Now, let’s talk about why you’re here.

3:58

Tell me what you’ve come to talk to me about today.

4:02

Because I brought chocolate to school?

4:05

No. It’s not about that.

4:08

I heard that you have a mark on your arm.

4:11

Oh.

4:14

And I can see that you have a mark on your arm.

4:21

Do you know how you got that mark?

4:27

Yes.

Eliciting a narrative account of the event

4:31

Tell me everything that happened, start from the beginning.

4:38

Thomas... rang the bell. And everyone started to put things away.

4:47

Uh huh.

4:49

I put my work away real fast.

4:55

Uh huh.

4:58

And I went to line up by the door.

5:03

And what happened then?

5:06

I wanted to be first in line so that I could get the guinea pigs first.

5:12

Then what happened?

5:16

Mrs Grey said that I couldn’t be first in line.

5:22

Because I hadn’t put my work away yet.

5:26

Uh huh.

5:29

I told her it wasn’t my work on the floor.

5:35

What happened after that?

5:37

She said it didn’t matter, that I had to put it away anyway.

5:43

Mhmm.

5:44

She grabbed me up by the arm.

5:47

Grabbed you?

5:49

Yeah, really hard.

5:53

What happened then?

5:55

I tried to pull away, but she wouldn’t let go.

6:00

And then?

6:02

She dragged me to the table to put the work away.

6:09

You said Mrs Grey grabbed you Isabella.

6:12

I wasn’t there, so it’s important that you tell me everything that happened, in as much detail as you can remember.

6:30

Mrs Grey said “Come back and put this work away!”

6:38

Uh huh.

6:40

But I needed to be first in line to play with the guinea pigs.

6:45

Mhmm.

6:49

Mrs Grey grabbed my arm like this.

6:54

What happened then?

6:59

That’s all.

7:01

What happened when she grabbed your arm really hard?

7:06

She just dug her fingers and pushed hard.

7:09

It really hurt.

7:15

Mhmm.

7:16

And I said ‘Ouch’ and then she stopped.

7:21

Stopped?

7:22

Yes, she pulled her hand away.

7:29

I was really mad.

7:33

And what happened after she pulled her hand away?

7:36

She said that we could all go out and she would put the rest of the work away.

7:45

That’s all.

7:50

Tell me more about the part when you went out to play.

7:55

She said we could all go out to play and she would do the rest of the clean up.

8:03

I got to hold the guinea pigs and then we had art class.

8:11

We had art class with Miss Beck.

8:16

Thanks for that.

8:17

Now we’re just going to have a quick break.

8:20

You can stay in this room.

8:21

I need to check my notes to see if there’s anything else I need to ask you.

8:25

Is that okay with you?

8:28

Okay.

8:29

Do you need anything? A drink?

8:33

Thank you, Isabella.

Further questioning

8:46

Isabella, thanks for waiting.

8:48

I just have a few more questions to ask you.

8:51

Is that okay?

8:53

Okay.

8:55

You said that yesterday Mrs Grey grabbed your arm.

8:58

Is that the same place as the mark or a different place?

9:01

The same.

9:04

You said you were in a classroom when she grabbed your arm.

9:08

What classroom were you in?

9:10

Just homeroom.

9:13

Who else was in the classroom when she grabbed you?

9:16

All the other kids.

9:20

Other kids?

9:21

All the 3B kids.

9:25

Have you had a class with Mrs Grey since this happened?

9:29

Mmm… No.

9:34

Did Mrs Grey say anything to you when she grabbed your arm?

9:39

Yes.

9:41

She said “Come back and put the mess on the floor away”.

9:44

But it wasn’t my mess.

9:47

Has there been another time when Mrs Grey has grabbed your arm too hard?

9:52

No. She usually thinks I put my work away.

10:02

Well thank you for talking to me today, Isabella.

10:04

Is there anything you want to ask me?

10:07

No.

10:08

I’m going to take you back to your mum now.

10:10

And while we’re walking, I’d love to hear more about your rock climbing.

10:14

Can you tell me all about it?

10:15

Yep.

10:16

Alright. Let’s go.

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